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        "title": "Roundtable: Remembering the Artist Seiu",
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"晴雨画伯を偲んで\n\n出席者（発言順）\n伊藤竹酔（粋古堂主人）\n大橋月皎（芝居絵画家）\n佐藤倫一郎（造型美術家）\n東喜代駒（漫談家）\n高橋鐵（日本生活心理学会会長）\n司会　須磨利之\n\n2月6日夜　神田駅前お座敷バー「わだち」にて\n\n司会　本夕は、皆様お忙しいところを、お集り下さいまして、ありがとうございました。伊藤晴雨先生が、去る一月二十八日に亡くなられましたのですが、風俗画家として、また責めの研究家として高名だった先生を失った事は悲しいことだと存じます。ここに深く哀悼の意を表する次第でございます。そこで、晴雨先生と古くからお知り合いだった皆様方にお集り願いまして、最後の浮世絵師と云われている晴雨先生の、若かりし頃から今までの風貌を、皆様それぞれの角度から、語っていただきたいと思っております。\n\n早速ですが、竹酔先生が晴雨先生とはじめて知り合われたのは？\n\n伊藤　神田明神のそばの芸者屋街に田村秋子の父親が小料理屋をやっていて、そこで何の会か忘れたが会があった時、はじめて会ったんです。それからずっと交際が続いて、最後までおつきあいしたわけです。\n\n司会　月皎先生の馴れ染めは？\n\n大橋　大正六年ぐらいになりますか……その前に「活動写真界」といったか、映画雑誌がありまして、そこで似顔絵の募集があったんです。それにはじめて投書したのが、一等になったんですが、その選者が晴雨先生だったわけです。その時分神戸にいたんですが翌年上京してその雑誌社を尋ねると、先生に紹介してやるということでお会いしたんです。すると上京したばかりだったら家へ来たらいいといわれて、お世話になったんです。その時はまだ上の坊やがようよう歩きで、菊さんが赤ん坊だったんです。それから一年ほどいる間に講談社の挿絵や地方新聞などにも、ぼつぼつ絵を描いていました。\n\n佐藤　僕は昭和初期から四年ぐらいまで先生の所にいて、その後も昭和八、九年ごろまで行ったり来たり、洋画もやってたから少し離れたりしていました。僕の場合は、版画を研究していたというんで、先生の方から来てくれといわれたんです。それと同時に、舞台装置の方もやってみたらどうだというんで、お世話になったんです。\n\n東　私は皆様方から見るとずっと最近でござんしょうが、放送局が愛宕山にできた時分ですね。上野の西郷さんの裏に常盤花壇という有名な料理屋がありまして、中村という人と、銀座に披露目屋の元祖がいまして、中村は東京市の嘱託をやってたか何か相談があったんでしょう。その席上呼ばれて行ったら正面に晴雨先生がいらっしゃったわけです。\n\n佐藤　最初の奥さんの竹夫さんとは明治三十四年に結婚されて、大正九年に別れたんです。その間にモデルに使っていた［人名判読不確実］さんが二度目の奥さんになって昭和三年ごろまでおられた。そのあとが菊子という婦人で、やはりモデルに使っていた人です。菊子さんの上に兄さんがいたが、この正秋さんというのは戦死しました。ここで一番古いおつきあいは月皎さんですが、その時分先生はやっぱり貧乏だったんですか。\n\n大橋　貧乏はひどいですね。それでもちゃんと心得ていて、私が家を持ってからいらしてくださった時なんかは、女房が座敷へ出ると、絶対さわらないんですよ。人がいやがったりなんかしてれば、かえってやってやろうというふうに出るんですね。（笑）\n\n伊藤　皮肉な人だからな。\n\n大橋　その時分は新派の仕事を、新富座とか歌舞伎座にしても新派の方をずっとやってましたね。番付まで自分で描いてましたね。\n\n伊藤　沢正のもずいぶん描いた。\n\n佐藤　前進座、五郎、明石潮、新国劇、その時分、舞台装置家として非常に売れた時代です。三軒ぐらいかけもちしてたこともあります。\n\n司会　責めの芝居なんかずいぶんあったということ聞いていますが……。戦争前に矢来下の江戸川劇場といいましたか、あそこで自分の好きな芝居を、背景まで描いてやっておりましたね。\n\n東　それから千住の小松屋とかね。\n\n司会　高橋先生はいつごろからでしたか？\n\n高橋　ぼく、晴雨先生にいわれたことがあるんです。一番初めにお会いしたのは昭和三年何月何日と。先生はよく「あれは何年何月何日のことです」というように細かい日付をスラスラと空でいわれましたね。\n\n伊藤　昭和三年ごろすでに変態資料とか前の「デカメロン」に何か発表されてますね。\n\n高橋　そうですね。\n\n伊藤　梅原北明が先生に無断で写真をのせちゃって、先生がかんかんに怒ったことがある。\n\n佐藤　大体先生の仕事は、芝居の舞台装置と看板とブロマイド、挿絵は「サンデー毎日」「週刊朝日」「講談雑誌」「文芸倶楽部」等に盛んに描いていました。\n\n司会　静かな雨という「静雨」の号を使っておられたのはいつごろですか。\n\n佐藤　大正時代ですね。\n\n司会　先生のお仕事はいろいろ誤解されたり、苦心なさったでしょうね。あの時代のことですから。\n\n伊藤　［一部判読不明］巻物を発行した時、丸の内の重役どもへチラシを配ったら、投書したものがあって丸の内署へ発行元も晴雨さんも呼ばれてね。\n\n佐藤　「論語通解」の時、まだ警視庁が大手町にあった時分ですよ。どこから足がついて、間もなく朝、四、五人やって来て「論語通解」と責めの写真を少し持って行ったんです。僕はその日に帰ってくれたが、これはたいへんだというんで、翌日演舞場と市村座へ行って切符を買って、お世話になりましたぐらいなことで係にやったんです。その時先生は一晩だけで、たいしたことないんで帰されたんですが、日々新聞やなにかに三段抜きで先生のことが出たもんだから今度また警視庁が何ころあその晩先生と二人でガチャリンコやられて、小伝馬町の仮留置場へ入れられて、翌日市ヶ谷へ持って行かれました。未決ですよ。ワイ画の方はたいしたことなかったんですよ。今度は贈賄問題にひっかかったんです。切符をやったことが新聞に出かかったんです。（笑）\n\n髪の乱れが魅力\n\n高橋　実験の会を始めたのはいつですか？\n\n佐藤　大正時代から、そこそこやりましたよ。\n\n伊藤　先生の責めは日本髪から来てるんだろうと思うんです。\n\n司会　日本髪を崩すところに、先生のセックスに感じるようなものがあったんですね。断髪やウェーブなんかじゃ感じなかったんでしょうね。\n\n佐藤　家の二階には古いカツラが幾つも置いてありました。\n\n大橋　佐藤さんの前に山崎という人がいて、それが王子かどこかの辻堂へ願をかける女が髪を切って上げてあるのを持って来いというんじゃないかな。\n\n東　［一部判読不明］芸者が来ると必ずうなじを見て、取りに行かされていたこともある。\n\n佐藤　芸者が来ると必ずうなじをのぞくんです。あらわれたといって逃げちゃう。\n\n大橋　無感覚の人間は嫌いなんですよ。だから道歩いていても「これは縛れるな」というのを見付けるので、縛れる方も何かそういう感じがなければ、ただむりやりにというんじゃいけなかったんですね。\n\n司会　相手はマゾヒストでないといけないわけですね。\n\n高橋　たしかに本筋のサジストですが、毛髪フェチシストに違いない。髪の乱れが一番いいんでしょう。すべての乱れたと思うね。裏いを含んだようなうらめしいような顔が、一番いいんだといって。その中にももちろん女の快感も入ってなきゃいけない。どっちかというと少しうらぶれてる方がいいんじゃないかな。\n\n大橋　結局、出発点が浦里だから。\n\n佐藤　先生の責めに関するコレクションの昔からのものに、浦里の版画や芝居の写真がたくさんありましたよ。\n\nモデルの災難\n\n佐藤　ある時、宮崎のモデルを頼んで、金をやって日本髪結わせて画を描くというので、女は喜んで来たわけです。「佐藤君は二階で調べ物してください」といって、なるべく僕にも見せないように下でやってるんです。それがいつまでもかかって、しまいに電気がともってくる。何をしてるかというと、きれいに結った髪の元結をぶっつり切っちゃって、「はい、ちょっと」というんでとうとう縛られちゃって、モデルの間で「あの先生はたいへんな先生だ」と評判になりました。例の細引きと荒縄が入ってたんですよ。何をやったのかなと、ちょっと気になりましたね。（笑）\n\n大橋　それは昔もいってました。［短い発言の一部判読不明］\n\n高橋　晴雨さん、ホモの気あったのかね。\n\n司会　ぼくが伺ったのは、女でなきゃいけないということなしに、女形にカツラかぶせて縛って、後から何するというようなことでしたが……。\n\n東　先生はどっちかというと、直接の肉体の接触というものの必要がなかったのじゃないかな。\n\n司会　たとえば女の人をそういう形にしておいて、そういうものを見ながらというわけですか？\n\n東　火あぶりね。高橋義信と五月信子のやつだ。あれは先生がモデルだね。大阪の角座かどこかで、大辻司郎が「いいもの見せてやる」といって、かぶりつきで芝居を見たことがある。先生という人は純なるんだ。（笑）\n\n佐藤　一応モデルといった女がカフェなり小料理屋にいるとなると、くだらない金をむやみと使いに行く。こっちは菊ちゃんと二人で食う米がなくて、正月に質屋へ行ったことがあります。竹酔さんとこへ「論語通解」持って行って貸してくれといったら、竹酔さんがなかなか渋かったね。（笑）\n\n東　楽屋へある時扇風機持って入って来たね。風船に［人名・語句判読不明］の絵をチョコチョコに描いてふくらまして、また、それ持ったまま電車に乗っちゃう。おまわりが追っかけて来たよ。「俺が持ってる分にはいいじゃねえか」と辞っ払ってるから謝らない。最後に、パン割っちゃって「証拠が無いじゃねえか」というんだ。（笑）\n\n人が垣根を作ってくれた\n\n佐藤　まだ五郎さんかが演舞場でやってたころ、表に警察の提灯がおいてある。東劇、演舞場、歌舞伎座の客が有楽町まで当時歩くんで交通整理だ。昔の警察の郵便局みたいな帳面な字で縄と書いてある二本棒入ってたあれを持って、先生が電車道を歩いて、尾張町まで行って捕まったんです。（笑）五郎さんとこのだれかが行って謝って始末書かされた。「この提灯おもしろいよ、みんな止りやがる」なんて先生は喜んでいる。（笑）\n\n大橋　あすこの家の竹垣がこわれちゃってたんです。そこでどって昼日なかでも何でも、ほら、家の中で……だから、近所の子供がのぞくんで苦情が出たんです。「垣根を何とかしろ」ったって俺の垣根だから、どうしようと俺の勝手だ。中でやってることも俺の勝手だ、というんで、とうとう向うでもって垣根をこしらえちゃった。（笑）俺のとこの垣根を蹴りゃがったといって。（笑）\n\n大橋　先生はおでこがガクンガクンと動くんですね。これは俺一人じゃない、日本にも二、三人いるんだといってましたね。先生の家に買い物に行ってくると、幾らかくすねておいて玄関上った所の上へ隠しておくんです。先生は一文なしでも平気で出かけようとするから、「先生、電車賃上げます」といって隠しといた小銭を渡すとどんどん持って行くんです。どこから持ってきたかとも聞かないんですね。（笑）先生と一緒に出ると、どこからどこまで歩かせられるんで閉口しました。\n\n司会　いつか新橋で、香屋の中を突っ切って行かれるんです。入り口から裏口まで「近道だよ」とおっしゃって突っ切るんですが、ついに行くと店の人に怒られました。先生は先にとことこ行ってしまって、私だけひっかかったんです。（笑）\n\n大橋　車坂かどこかのみやへ行って、勘定が足りなかった時、先生は電車の切符を片方出すんです。（笑）それで勘定合ってるんですから大威張りだけども。\n\n佐藤　変った人もいましたね。先生の絵がほしいといって入ってきたんです。私がモデルになるから絵を描いてくれといって。どこかの教員で、女子美術か何かのモデルになったけれどもおもしろくないんです。縛ってモデルになりたいという。じゃあキリストの絵を描きましょう、というのでカツラをかぶせて棒に縛って。\n\n高橋　縛られてれば何でもいいのかね。シミーズや何かじゃだめなんですよ。やはり頭の毛が長くて日本髪でないと。\n\n私に五十銭か一円くれるんです。「書生さん活動へ行ってらっしゃい」とか「御飯でも食べていらっしゃい」というから、かえってわかっちゃう。（笑）あの画室は戸が歪んでるから、どこからのぞいたってわかるんですよ。先生やり出したなと思ったら見つからないように見てる。ときどき先生のよろこびそうな見方をして、気をつけながらね。（笑）\n\n「火あぶり」の真相\n\n大橋　先生は無頓着な人でしたね。三月や半年は床屋へ行かなかったし、顔を洗うのが嫌いで、タオルを出しておくと黒い指の跡が三本ついているつもり。（笑）ものごとに、こせこせしない人でした。\n\n司会　希町の先生行きつけのみやで、いいところまで話がいくと前が開いてくる。そうするとそこのおかみがそれを直すのが常でしたね。（笑）\n\n大橋　あの「火あぶり」の本当のネタは、実は私からなんです。先生の家を出て、その生活を話してるうち、鈴木泉三郎さんが書いたんですが、昔Kという有名な新聞記者の家へ先生が通ってたわけですが、最初の奥さんの竹夫さんはその家の女中だったんです。それにKさんの手がついていたのをいただいちゃった。それと一緒にあのたくさんの本ももらったわけです。たいへんな書籍があったでしょう。そうすると今度は、あの芝居の中で、あの女性のモデルは細君だから、細君とくっついてるのは僕だろうといわれたこともありまして。（笑）\n\n司会　今、話のもとは自分だとおっしゃったから、奥さんとどうかかっていたのかと思ったんです。（笑）「火あぶり」のモデル、月皎先生だとするとそういうこともないんですか？（笑）\n\n大橋　そういうことはないんです。私は二十二歳、童貞ですもの。\n\n司会　なるほど……。（笑）\n\n大橋　邦楽座で見た時、「前のかかあも俺の師匠とくっついていやがった、手前も師匠とくっついてやがる」とやるところがありますが、先生だけそこで手を叩いてるんです。（笑）そこまでは全然、私は知らないし、作者に話したこともないけれども、それを勘ぐって作者が考えたことと暗合しちゃったわけですね。\n\n伊藤　晩年、「日本髪」という本を原稿料いらないから出してくれといわれたことがあるよ、日本髪の髪形や何か。先生七十幾つになって細い線は無理ですよといってるうち、実現せずに亡くなった。もう十年若かったらりっぱなものができたんだが。髪に非常に執着持っていたんですね。\n\n大橋　戦争中ですが、まだあまりひどくならない時に、銀座で展覧会をやったことがありましたね。みんなが上品ぶっていろいろなところへわざわざ胡粉の絵や泥絵と称して、つまり日本画の本当のいい材料使っていなく、看板みたいな泥絵具で描くんだといって、どこでだったか展覧会をしました。その時菊子さんも来て、その時会場も物資がとても不足なところに、お客様にコーヒーなんか出して、ゆったりしたなごやかな感じでした。\n\n司会　とにかく御自分の思い通りのことを力一杯やり通して来た方ですね。他人に邪魔をされるのも嫌いだったし、そのかわり人の邪魔もしないという……。\n\n大橋　他人に邪魔をされるのも嫌いだったし、そのかわり人の邪魔もしないという……。\n\n佐藤　週刊誌や何かは、奇人とか変人とかいうが、本当いって嘘もかくしもない一生をおした人だから、これが本当の意味の真摯な生き方じゃなかったかな。奇人でも変人でもない、好々爺でしたよ。あたたかい血の通った人でした。惜しいことです。\n\n司会　まだまだお話はつきないでしょうが、速報はこのあたりで……どうも、いろいろありがとうございました。（終）",
        "translation_draft": "Remembering the Artist Seiu\n\nParticipants, in order of speaking:\nItō Chikusui, proprietor of Suikodō\nŌhashi Gekkō, theatrical painter\nSatō Rin'ichirō, plastic artist\nAzuma Kiyokoma, comic storyteller\nTakahashi Tetsu, president of the Japan Society for the Psychology of Everyday Life\nModerator: Suma Toshiyuki\n\nEvening of February 6, at the zashiki bar Wadachi in front of Kanda Station.\n\nMODERATOR: Thank you all for taking time from your busy schedules to gather here tonight. Itō Seiu passed away on January 28. The loss of a man renowned both as a painter of manners and customs and as a researcher of torment is a sad one, and I would first like to express our profound condolences. We have therefore invited those of you who knew Seiu for many years to speak about the man sometimes called the last ukiyo-e artist, describing him from your various perspectives, from his youth down to the present. To begin, Mr. Chikusui, when did you first become acquainted with Seiu?\n\nITŌ: Near Kanda Myōjin there was a geisha quarter where the father of Tamura Akiko ran a small restaurant. Some sort of gathering was held there, though I no longer remember what it was, and that was where I first met him. We remained in contact from then on, right up to the end.\n\nMODERATOR: And how did you first meet him, Mr. Gekkō?\n\nŌHASHI: It would have been around Taishō 6, 1917. Before that there was a movie magazine, I think it was called Katsudō Shashinkai, and it held a competition for portrait drawings. The first picture I ever submitted won first prize, and Seiu was one of the judges. I was living in Kobe then, but the following year I came to Tokyo and visited the magazine office. They said they would introduce me to him, and that was how we met. I had only just come to Tokyo, so he told me I could stay at his house, and he looked after me. At that time his older boy was only just beginning to walk and Kiku was still a baby. During the year or so that I stayed there he was drawing illustrations for Kōdansha and for provincial newspapers as well.\n\nSATŌ: I was with him from the beginning of the Shōwa period until around Shōwa 4, 1929, and after that I continued coming and going until around Shōwa 8 or 9. I was also studying Western-style painting, so there were periods when I drifted away. In my case, because I was studying printmaking, he was the one who asked me to come work with him. At the same time he said I ought to try stage design, so he took me under his wing in that field too.\n\nAZUMA: Compared with all of you, my acquaintance with him was much more recent. It was around the time the broadcasting station was established at Atagoyama. Behind the Saigō statue in Ueno there was a famous restaurant called Tokiwa Kadan. There was a man named Nakamura, and there was also the pioneer of the Ginza publicity business. Nakamura was doing some kind of commissioned work for Tokyo City, and there seems to have been some matter they were discussing. I was called to the gathering, and when I arrived Seiu was sitting directly opposite me. That was how I met him.\n\nSATŌ: His first wife, Takeo, married him in Meiji 34, 1901, and they separated in Taishō 9, 1920. During that period a woman whom he had been using as a model became his second wife, and she remained with him until around Shōwa 3. After her came a woman named Kikuko, who had likewise modeled for him. Kikuko had an older brother, Masaaki, who was killed in the war. Mr. Gekkō has known him longer than anyone here. Was Seiu already poor in those days?\n\nŌHASHI: Terribly poor. Yet even when he later had a household of his own, if a geisha came into the room he understood the situation perfectly and would never touch her. But if someone showed that she disliked something, then he was the sort who would feel tempted to do exactly that. [Laughter]\n\nITŌ: He had a contrary streak.\n\nŌHASHI: In those days he did a great deal of work for the shinpa theater, including at the Shintomiza and Kabukiza. He even drew the program bills himself.\n\nITŌ: He drew a tremendous amount for Sawamasa too.\n\nSATŌ: The Zenshinza, Gorō, Akashi Ushio, Shinkokugeki. There was a period when he was extremely successful as a stage designer. At times he was handling three theaters simultaneously.\n\nMODERATOR: I have heard that there were quite a few plays involving torment. Before the war there was a theater at Yaraishita called the Edogawa Theater, wasn't there? He would stage the plays he liked and even paint the scenery himself.\n\nAZUMA: There was also Komatsuya in Senju.\n\nMODERATOR: Professor Takahashi, when did you first know him?\n\nTAKAHASHI: Seiu once told me the exact date when I first met him, down to the year, month, and day in Shōwa 3. He was always like that. He could say, entirely from memory, 'That happened on such-and-such a day of such-and-such a month and year.'\n\nITŌ: By around Shōwa 3 he was already publishing material on sexual abnormality and things in the earlier Decameron, wasn't he?\n\nTAKAHASHI: Yes.\n\nITŌ: Umehara Hokumei once printed some of Seiu's photographs without permission and Seiu became absolutely furious.\n\nSATŌ: Broadly speaking, his professional work consisted of stage sets, theater signs and bromides. He also contributed illustrations extensively to Sunday Mainichi, Shūkan Asahi, Kōdan Zasshi, Bungei Kurabu, and similar magazines.\n\nMODERATOR: When did he use the art name Seiu, written as 'quiet rain'?\n\nSATŌ: In the Taishō period.\n\nMODERATOR: His work must often have been misunderstood, and he must have had considerable difficulties, given the period he was working in.\n\nITŌ: When he published one of his illustrated scroll-type works, he distributed notices to executives around Marunouchi. Someone complained, and both the publisher and Seiu were summoned to the Marunouchi police station. [A portion of the title and surrounding wording is unclear in the print.]\n\nSATŌ: During the affair involving Rongo Tsūkai, the Metropolitan Police Department was still at Ōtemachi. Somehow they traced it back to him. One morning four or five officers arrived and took away Rongo Tsūkai and some of his torment photographs. He came home that day, but everyone thought the matter was serious. The following day he went to the Enbujō and Ichimuraza, bought theater tickets, and gave them to people connected with the case by way of thanks. He had only been held overnight and released, but then the newspapers ran a three-column story about him. The police became involved again, and he and another teacher were hauled in and placed in temporary detention at Kodenmachō, then taken to Ichigaya the next day. He was an unconvicted detainee. The obscene-picture issue itself was not especially serious. This time he got caught up in a bribery case because of those theater tickets. [Laughter]\n\nThe Allure of Disordered Hair\n\nTAKAHASHI: When did he begin holding those experimental meetings?\n\nSATŌ: Already in the Taishō period. He was doing them quite regularly by then.\n\nITŌ: I think Seiu's idea of torment came originally from Japanese coiffure.\n\nMODERATOR: So destroying a Japanese hairstyle had a sexual quality for him. A bobbed cut or a permanent wave would not have produced the same feeling.\n\nSATŌ: Upstairs in his house there were several old wigs.\n\nŌHASHI: Before Satō there was a man called Yamazaki. I think Seiu told him to bring back hair that women had cut off and offered at some roadside hall around Ōji.\n\nAZUMA: [Partly unclear.] Whenever geisha came, he would inevitably look at the nape of the neck, and sometimes people were sent to fetch such things for him.\n\nSATŌ: When a geisha came he would always peer at the nape of her neck. If she realized what he was doing, she'd run away.\n\nŌHASHI: He disliked people who were insensitive. Even while walking down the street he would spot someone and think, 'That one could be tied.' The person being tied had to possess some corresponding disposition. It was not simply a matter of forcing someone who felt nothing.\n\nMODERATOR: In other words, the partner had to be a masochist.\n\nTAKAHASHI: He was certainly a genuine sadist, but there is no question that he was also a hair fetishist. Disordered hair was probably the most attractive thing to him. He liked disorder generally. He said a slightly resentful, forlorn expression was the most appealing. Yet there also had to be some pleasure in the woman's face. If anything, he preferred a woman who looked a little worn or downcast.\n\nŌHASHI: In the end, his starting point was Urasato.\n\nSATŌ: Among his old collection of material concerning torment there were many Urasato prints and theatrical photographs.\n\nThe Model's Misfortune\n\nSATŌ: Once he hired a model from Miyazaki and gave her money to have her hair dressed in a Japanese style because he said he wanted to paint her. She was delighted and came over. He told me, 'Satō, go upstairs and do some research,' and worked downstairs so that even I would not see what he was doing. It went on and on until finally the lights came on. What had he been doing? He had cut straight through the motoyui cord holding together her beautifully dressed hair, said, 'All right, just a moment,' and eventually tied her up. Among the models he gained a reputation as a terrifying sort of artist. His usual thin cord and rough rope were there. I found myself wondering exactly what he had done. [Laughter]\n\nŌHASHI: He used to say things like that even in the old days. [A short portion is unclear.]\n\nTAKAHASHI: Did Seiu have any homosexual inclination?\n\nMODERATOR: What I heard was that it did not absolutely have to be a woman. He might put a woman's wig on an onnagata actor, tie him, and then do something afterward. That sort of story.\n\nAZUMA: My impression is that Seiu did not particularly require direct bodily contact.\n\nMODERATOR: You mean he would arrange a woman in a certain form and simply look at her?\n\nAZUMA: There was the fire-roasting business. Takahashi Yoshinobu and Satsuki Nobuko were involved in that. Seiu was the model for it, wasn't he? At the Kadoza in Osaka, or somewhere like that, Ōtsuji Shirō said to me, 'I'll show you something good,' and we watched it from right at the front. Seiu was a remarkably pure man. [Laughter]\n\nSATŌ: Once a woman had become his model, if she worked at a café or little restaurant he would spend absurd amounts of money going there. Meanwhile Kikuko and I sometimes had no rice to eat. One New Year's we even had to go to a pawnshop. We took Rongo Tsūkai to Mr. Chikusui and asked him to lend us money on it, but Mr. Chikusui was rather reluctant. [Laughter]\n\nAZUMA: Once he came into the dressing room carrying an electric fan. He had drawn little pictures of [unclear name or subject] all over a balloon, inflated it, and then got on the train still carrying the thing. A policeman chased him. He said, 'There's nothing wrong with me carrying something that's mine,' and refused to apologize. Finally he burst the balloon and said, 'Now there's no evidence, is there?' [Laughter]\n\nPeople Built the Fence for Him\n\nSATŌ: Back when Gorō and the others were performing at the Enbujō, there was a police lantern outside. The audiences of the Tōgeki, Enbujō, and Kabukiza all walked toward Yūrakuchō, so it was used for traffic control. It had the word 'rope' written on it in those old-fashioned police-office characters, with two black bars. Seiu took it and walked along the tram tracks all the way to Owarichō, where he was arrested. [Laughter] Someone connected with Gorō went to apologize and Seiu had to write a statement. He was delighted, saying, 'This lantern is wonderful. Everyone stops for me.' [Laughter]\n\nŌHASHI: The bamboo fence at his house was broken. Even in broad daylight he would do whatever he pleased inside the house. Neighborhood children would peep through, and complaints were made. People told him, 'Do something about that fence.' He replied, 'It's my fence. What I do with it is my business. What I do inside my own house is my business too.' In the end the neighbors built the fence themselves. [Laughter] Then he kicked the fence because it was his fence. [Laughter]\n\nŌHASHI: His forehead would move up and down in this peculiar way. He used to say, 'I'm not the only one. There are two or three people in Japan who can do this.' If I went shopping for him, I would skim off a little of the change and hide it on the shelf above the entrance. He could go out completely penniless without worrying about it. Then I'd say, 'Sensei, here's your tram fare,' and hand him the coins I had hidden. He would take them without even asking where I had found the money. [Laughter] If you went out with him, he would make you walk endlessly, which was exhausting.\n\nMODERATOR: Once at Shimbashi he cut directly through the inside of a shop, saying, 'It's a shortcut,' from the front entrance right through to the rear. Eventually the shopkeeper became angry. Seiu had already toddled off ahead, and I was the one who got caught. [Laughter]\n\nŌHASHI: Once we went to a drinking place around Kurumazaka and were short of the bill. Seiu produced half of a tram ticket. [Laughter] Somehow that settled the account, and he behaved as though he had every right to be proud of himself.\n\nSATŌ: Some very unusual people came to him as well. One person came in saying he wanted a picture by Seiu and offered to become a model. He was some sort of teacher. He had modeled at Joshibi or another women's art school but found that boring. He wanted to be tied as a model. So Seiu said, 'Then let's paint a picture of Christ,' put a wig on him and tied him to a pole.\n\nTAKAHASHI: Was simply being tied enough for him? A chemise or something like that would not do. The hair had to be long and, above all, it had to be dressed in Japanese style.\n\n[Speaker attribution continues from the preceding passage.] He would give me fifty sen or a yen and say, 'Student, why don't you go to the movies?' or 'Go and get yourself something to eat.' That only made it more obvious what he was about to do. [Laughter] The door of his studio was warped, so you could see in from almost anywhere. When I thought, 'Sensei has started again,' I would watch without letting him notice. From time to time I would deliberately look in the way I knew would please him, while taking care not to be caught. [Laughter]\n\nThe Truth Behind the Fire-Roasting Story\n\nŌHASHI: He was extraordinarily unconcerned about appearances. He might go three months or half a year without visiting a barber, and he disliked washing his face. If you handed him a towel it would come back with three black finger marks on it. [Laughter] He was not a fussy or petty man.\n\nMODERATOR: At one of the drinking places he frequented, when the conversation became especially lively his clothing would gradually fall open. The proprietress would routinely straighten it for him. [Laughter]\n\nŌHASHI: The real source of that 'fire-roasting' story actually came from me. After leaving Seiu's house I was talking about his life, and Suzuki Senzaburō later wrote it. Long ago Seiu used to visit the home of a famous newspaper reporter whom I'll call K. His first wife, Takeo, had been a maid in that household. K had already had relations with her, and Seiu ended up taking her away. Along with her he also received that great quantity of books. You remember what a remarkable library he had. Later, when the story became a play, people began saying that since the female model was Seiu's wife, the man involved with her in the play must have been me. [Laughter]\n\nMODERATOR: Since you just said the story originated with you, I began wondering exactly what your relationship with his wife had been. [Laughter] If Mr. Gekkō was the model for the fire-roasting story, does that mean there was something of that sort?\n\nŌHASHI: Nothing of the kind. I was twenty-two years old and still a virgin.\n\nMODERATOR: I see. [Laughter]\n\nŌHASHI: When I saw it at the Hōgakuza, there was a scene in which he says, 'My previous wife was sleeping with my master, and now you're sleeping with my master too!' Seiu was the only person in the audience who clapped his hands at that point. [Laughter] I knew absolutely nothing of that part of the story and had never told the author anything about it. The author had merely inferred something on his own, and by coincidence it matched reality in a curious way.\n\nITŌ: In his later years he once asked me to publish a book called Nihongami, Japanese Hairstyles. He said he did not need any author's fee. It was to be about Japanese hairstyles and their forms. By then he was already in his seventies and I told him that drawing such fine lines would be difficult. Before anything could be realized, he died. If only he had been ten years younger, it could have been a splendid book. He was extraordinarily attached to hair.\n\nŌHASHI: During the war, before conditions became too severe, he held an exhibition in Ginza. Everyone was trying to appear refined, while Seiu deliberately called some of his works gofun pictures or mud paintings, meaning that instead of using expensive orthodox nihonga materials he painted with cheap pigments more like those used for signs. I forget exactly where the exhibition was held. Kikuko was there too. Even though supplies were extremely scarce, they somehow served coffee to visitors, and the whole occasion had a relaxed, peaceful atmosphere.\n\nMODERATOR: In any event, he was a man who spent his life doing exactly what he wished, with all his strength. He hated other people interfering with him, but at the same time he did not interfere with other people.\n\nŌHASHI: Yes. He disliked being obstructed, and he did not obstruct others.\n\nSATŌ: Weekly magazines often called him an eccentric or a strange man, but in truth he lived a life without pretense and without concealment. I think that was a genuinely sincere way to live. He was neither a crank nor a freak. He was a warm, kindly old gentleman, a man with real blood in his veins. It is a great loss.\n\nMODERATOR: We could undoubtedly continue talking for a long time, but we will bring this discussion to a close here. Thank you all very much.",
        "translation_final": "Remembering the Artist Seiu\n\nParticipants, in order of speaking:\nItō Chikusui, proprietor of Suikodō\nŌhashi Gekkō, theatrical painter\nSatō Rin'ichirō, plastic artist\nAzuma Kiyokoma, comic storyteller\nTakahashi Tetsu, president of the Japan Society for the Psychology of Everyday Life\nModerator: Suma Toshiyuki\n\nEvening of February 6, at the zashiki bar Wadachi in front of Kanda Station.\n\nMODERATOR: Thank you all for taking time from your busy schedules to gather here tonight. Itō Seiu passed away on January 28. The loss of a man renowned both as a painter of manners and customs and as a researcher of torment is a sad one, and I would first like to express our profound condolences. We have therefore invited those of you who knew Seiu for many years to speak about the man sometimes called the last ukiyo-e artist, describing him from your various perspectives, from his youth down to the present. To begin, Mr. Chikusui, when did you first become acquainted with Seiu?\n\nITŌ: Near Kanda Myōjin there was a geisha quarter where the father of Tamura Akiko ran a small restaurant. Some sort of gathering was held there, though I no longer remember what it was, and that was where I first met him. We remained in contact from then on, right up to the end.\n\nMODERATOR: And how did you first meet him, Mr. Gekkō?\n\nŌHASHI: It would have been around Taishō 6, 1917. Before that there was a movie magazine, I think it was called Katsudō Shashinkai, and it held a competition for portrait drawings. The first picture I ever submitted won first prize, and Seiu was one of the judges. I was living in Kobe then, but the following year I came to Tokyo and visited the magazine office. They said they would introduce me to him, and that was how we met. I had only just come to Tokyo, so he told me I could stay at his house, and he looked after me. At that time his older boy was only just beginning to walk and Kiku was still a baby. During the year or so that I stayed there he was drawing illustrations for Kōdansha and for provincial newspapers as well.\n\nSATŌ: I was with him from the beginning of the Shōwa period until around Shōwa 4, 1929, and after that I continued coming and going until around Shōwa 8 or 9. I was also studying Western-style painting, so there were periods when I drifted away. In my case, because I was studying printmaking, he was the one who asked me to come work with him. At the same time he said I ought to try stage design, so he took me under his wing in that field too.\n\nAZUMA: Compared with all of you, my acquaintance with him was much more recent. It was around the time the broadcasting station was established at Atagoyama. Behind the Saigō statue in Ueno there was a famous restaurant called Tokiwa Kadan. There was a man named Nakamura, and there was also the pioneer of the Ginza publicity business. Nakamura was doing some kind of commissioned work for Tokyo City, and there seems to have been some matter they were discussing. I was called to the gathering, and when I arrived Seiu was sitting directly opposite me. That was how I met him.\n\nSATŌ: His first wife, Takeo, married him in Meiji 34, 1901, and they separated in Taishō 9, 1920. During that period a woman whom he had been using as a model became his second wife, and she remained with him until around Shōwa 3. After her came a woman named Kikuko, who had likewise modeled for him. Kikuko had an older brother, Masaaki, who was killed in the war. Mr. Gekkō has known him longer than anyone here. Was Seiu already poor in those days?\n\nŌHASHI: Terribly poor. Yet even when he later had a household of his own, if a geisha came into the room he understood the situation perfectly and would never touch her. But if someone showed that she disliked something, then he was the sort who would feel tempted to do exactly that. [Laughter]\n\nITŌ: He had a contrary streak.\n\nŌHASHI: In those days he did a great deal of work for the shinpa theater, including at the Shintomiza and Kabukiza. He even drew the program bills himself.\n\nITŌ: He drew a tremendous amount for Sawamasa too.\n\nSATŌ: The Zenshinza, Gorō, Akashi Ushio, Shinkokugeki. There was a period when he was extremely successful as a stage designer. At times he was handling three theaters simultaneously.\n\nMODERATOR: I have heard that there were quite a few plays involving torment. Before the war there was a theater at Yaraishita called the Edogawa Theater, wasn't there? He would stage the plays he liked and even paint the scenery himself.\n\nAZUMA: There was also Komatsuya in Senju.\n\nMODERATOR: Professor Takahashi, when did you first know him?\n\nTAKAHASHI: Seiu once told me the exact date when I first met him, down to the year, month, and day in Shōwa 3. He was always like that. He could say, entirely from memory, 'That happened on such-and-such a day of such-and-such a month and year.'\n\nITŌ: By around Shōwa 3 he was already publishing material on sexual abnormality and things in the earlier Decameron, wasn't he?\n\nTAKAHASHI: Yes.\n\nITŌ: Umehara Hokumei once printed some of Seiu's photographs without permission and Seiu became absolutely furious.\n\nSATŌ: Broadly speaking, his professional work consisted of stage sets, theater signs and bromides. He also contributed illustrations extensively to Sunday Mainichi, Shūkan Asahi, Kōdan Zasshi, Bungei Kurabu, and similar magazines.\n\nMODERATOR: When did he use the art name Seiu, written as 'quiet rain'?\n\nSATŌ: In the Taishō period.\n\nMODERATOR: His work must often have been misunderstood, and he must have had considerable difficulties, given the period he was working in.\n\nITŌ: When he published one of his illustrated scroll-type works, he distributed notices to executives around Marunouchi. Someone complained, and both the publisher and Seiu were summoned to the Marunouchi police station. [A portion of the title and surrounding wording is unclear in the print.]\n\nSATŌ: During the affair involving Rongo Tsūkai, the Metropolitan Police Department was still at Ōtemachi. Somehow they traced it back to him. One morning four or five officers arrived and took away Rongo Tsūkai and some of his torment photographs. He came home that day, but everyone thought the matter was serious. The following day he went to the Enbujō and Ichimuraza, bought theater tickets, and gave them to people connected with the case by way of thanks. He had only been held overnight and released, but then the newspapers ran a three-column story about him. The police became involved again, and he and another teacher were hauled in and placed in temporary detention at Kodenmachō, then taken to Ichigaya the next day. He was an unconvicted detainee. The obscene-picture issue itself was not especially serious. This time he got caught up in a bribery case because of those theater tickets. [Laughter]\n\nThe Allure of Disordered Hair\n\nTAKAHASHI: When did he begin holding those experimental meetings?\n\nSATŌ: Already in the Taishō period. He was doing them quite regularly by then.\n\nITŌ: I think Seiu's idea of torment came originally from Japanese coiffure.\n\nMODERATOR: So destroying a Japanese hairstyle had a sexual quality for him. A bobbed cut or a permanent wave would not have produced the same feeling.\n\nSATŌ: Upstairs in his house there were several old wigs.\n\nŌHASHI: Before Satō there was a man called Yamazaki. I think Seiu told him to bring back hair that women had cut off and offered at some roadside hall around Ōji.\n\nAZUMA: [Partly unclear.] Whenever geisha came, he would inevitably look at the nape of the neck, and sometimes people were sent to fetch such things for him.\n\nSATŌ: When a geisha came he would always peer at the nape of her neck. If she realized what he was doing, she'd run away.\n\nŌHASHI: He disliked people who were insensitive. Even while walking down the street he would spot someone and think, 'That one could be tied.' The person being tied had to possess some corresponding disposition. It was not simply a matter of forcing someone who felt nothing.\n\nMODERATOR: In other words, the partner had to be a masochist.\n\nTAKAHASHI: He was certainly a genuine sadist, but there is no question that he was also a hair fetishist. Disordered hair was probably the most attractive thing to him. He liked disorder generally. He said a slightly resentful, forlorn expression was the most appealing. Yet there also had to be some pleasure in the woman's face. If anything, he preferred a woman who looked a little worn or downcast.\n\nŌHASHI: In the end, his starting point was Urasato.\n\nSATŌ: Among his old collection of material concerning torment there were many Urasato prints and theatrical photographs.\n\nThe Model's Misfortune\n\nSATŌ: Once he hired a model from Miyazaki and gave her money to have her hair dressed in a Japanese style because he said he wanted to paint her. She was delighted and came over. He told me, 'Satō, go upstairs and do some research,' and worked downstairs so that even I would not see what he was doing. It went on and on until finally the lights came on. What had he been doing? He had cut straight through the motoyui cord holding together her beautifully dressed hair, said, 'All right, just a moment,' and eventually tied her up. Among the models he gained a reputation as a terrifying sort of artist. His usual thin cord and rough rope were there. I found myself wondering exactly what he had done. [Laughter]\n\nŌHASHI: He used to say things like that even in the old days. [A short portion is unclear.]\n\nTAKAHASHI: Did Seiu have any homosexual inclination?\n\nMODERATOR: What I heard was that it did not absolutely have to be a woman. He might put a woman's wig on an onnagata actor, tie him, and then do something afterward. That sort of story.\n\nAZUMA: My impression is that Seiu did not particularly require direct bodily contact.\n\nMODERATOR: You mean he would arrange a woman in a certain form and simply look at her?\n\nAZUMA: There was the fire-roasting business. Takahashi Yoshinobu and Satsuki Nobuko were involved in that. Seiu was the model for it, wasn't he? At the Kadoza in Osaka, or somewhere like that, Ōtsuji Shirō said to me, 'I'll show you something good,' and we watched it from right at the front. Seiu was a remarkably pure man. [Laughter]\n\nSATŌ: Once a woman had become his model, if she worked at a café or little restaurant he would spend absurd amounts of money going there. Meanwhile Kikuko and I sometimes had no rice to eat. One New Year's we even had to go to a pawnshop. We took Rongo Tsūkai to Mr. Chikusui and asked him to lend us money on it, but Mr. Chikusui was rather reluctant. [Laughter]\n\nAZUMA: Once he came into the dressing room carrying an electric fan. He had drawn little pictures of [unclear name or subject] all over a balloon, inflated it, and then got on the train still carrying the thing. A policeman chased him. He said, 'There's nothing wrong with me carrying something that's mine,' and refused to apologize. Finally he burst the balloon and said, 'Now there's no evidence, is there?' [Laughter]\n\nPeople Built the Fence for Him\n\nSATŌ: Back when Gorō and the others were performing at the Enbujō, there was a police lantern outside. The audiences of the Tōgeki, Enbujō, and Kabukiza all walked toward Yūrakuchō, so it was used for traffic control. It had the word 'rope' written on it in those old-fashioned police-office characters, with two black bars. Seiu took it and walked along the tram tracks all the way to Owarichō, where he was arrested. [Laughter] Someone connected with Gorō went to apologize and Seiu had to write a statement. He was delighted, saying, 'This lantern is wonderful. Everyone stops for me.' [Laughter]\n\nŌHASHI: The bamboo fence at his house was broken. Even in broad daylight he would do whatever he pleased inside the house. Neighborhood children would peep through, and complaints were made. People told him, 'Do something about that fence.' He replied, 'It's my fence. What I do with it is my business. What I do inside my own house is my business too.' In the end the neighbors built the fence themselves. [Laughter] Then he kicked the fence because it was his fence. [Laughter]\n\nŌHASHI: His forehead would move up and down in this peculiar way. He used to say, 'I'm not the only one. There are two or three people in Japan who can do this.' If I went shopping for him, I would skim off a little of the change and hide it on the shelf above the entrance. He could go out completely penniless without worrying about it. Then I'd say, 'Sensei, here's your tram fare,' and hand him the coins I had hidden. He would take them without even asking where I had found the money. [Laughter] If you went out with him, he would make you walk endlessly, which was exhausting.\n\nMODERATOR: Once at Shimbashi he cut directly through the inside of a shop, saying, 'It's a shortcut,' from the front entrance right through to the rear. Eventually the shopkeeper became angry. Seiu had already toddled off ahead, and I was the one who got caught. [Laughter]\n\nŌHASHI: Once we went to a drinking place around Kurumazaka and were short of the bill. Seiu produced half of a tram ticket. [Laughter] Somehow that settled the account, and he behaved as though he had every right to be proud of himself.\n\nSATŌ: Some very unusual people came to him as well. One person came in saying he wanted a picture by Seiu and offered to become a model. He was some sort of teacher. He had modeled at Joshibi or another women's art school but found that boring. He wanted to be tied as a model. So Seiu said, 'Then let's paint a picture of Christ,' put a wig on him and tied him to a pole.\n\nTAKAHASHI: Was simply being tied enough for him? A chemise or something like that would not do. The hair had to be long and, above all, it had to be dressed in Japanese style.\n\n[Speaker attribution continues from the preceding passage.] He would give me fifty sen or a yen and say, 'Student, why don't you go to the movies?' or 'Go and get yourself something to eat.' That only made it more obvious what he was about to do. [Laughter] The door of his studio was warped, so you could see in from almost anywhere. When I thought, 'Sensei has started again,' I would watch without letting him notice. From time to time I would deliberately look in the way I knew would please him, while taking care not to be caught. [Laughter]\n\nThe Truth Behind the Fire-Roasting Story\n\nŌHASHI: He was extraordinarily unconcerned about appearances. He might go three months or half a year without visiting a barber, and he disliked washing his face. If you handed him a towel it would come back with three black finger marks on it. [Laughter] He was not a fussy or petty man.\n\nMODERATOR: At one of the drinking places he frequented, when the conversation became especially lively his clothing would gradually fall open. The proprietress would routinely straighten it for him. [Laughter]\n\nŌHASHI: The real source of that 'fire-roasting' story actually came from me. After leaving Seiu's house I was talking about his life, and Suzuki Senzaburō later wrote it. Long ago Seiu used to visit the home of a famous newspaper reporter whom I'll call K. His first wife, Takeo, had been a maid in that household. K had already had relations with her, and Seiu ended up taking her away. Along with her he also received that great quantity of books. You remember what a remarkable library he had. Later, when the story became a play, people began saying that since the female model was Seiu's wife, the man involved with her in the play must have been me. [Laughter]\n\nMODERATOR: Since you just said the story originated with you, I began wondering exactly what your relationship with his wife had been. [Laughter] If Mr. Gekkō was the model for the fire-roasting story, does that mean there was something of that sort?\n\nŌHASHI: Nothing of the kind. I was twenty-two years old and still a virgin.\n\nMODERATOR: I see. [Laughter]\n\nŌHASHI: When I saw it at the Hōgakuza, there was a scene in which he says, 'My previous wife was sleeping with my master, and now you're sleeping with my master too!' Seiu was the only person in the audience who clapped his hands at that point. [Laughter] I knew absolutely nothing of that part of the story and had never told the author anything about it. The author had merely inferred something on his own, and by coincidence it matched reality in a curious way.\n\nITŌ: In his later years he once asked me to publish a book called Nihongami, Japanese Hairstyles. He said he did not need any author's fee. It was to be about Japanese hairstyles and their forms. By then he was already in his seventies and I told him that drawing such fine lines would be difficult. Before anything could be realized, he died. If only he had been ten years younger, it could have been a splendid book. He was extraordinarily attached to hair.\n\nŌHASHI: During the war, before conditions became too severe, he held an exhibition in Ginza. Everyone was trying to appear refined, while Seiu deliberately called some of his works gofun pictures or mud paintings, meaning that instead of using expensive orthodox nihonga materials he painted with cheap pigments more like those used for signs. I forget exactly where the exhibition was held. Kikuko was there too. Even though supplies were extremely scarce, they somehow served coffee to visitors, and the whole occasion had a relaxed, peaceful atmosphere.\n\nMODERATOR: In any event, he was a man who spent his life doing exactly what he wished, with all his strength. He hated other people interfering with him, but at the same time he did not interfere with other people.\n\nŌHASHI: Yes. He disliked being obstructed, and he did not obstruct others.\n\nSATŌ: Weekly magazines often called him an eccentric or a strange man, but in truth he lived a life without pretense and without concealment. I think that was a genuinely sincere way to live. He was neither a crank nor a freak. He was a warm, kindly old gentleman, a man with real blood in his veins. It is a great loss.\n\nMODERATOR: We could undoubtedly continue talking for a long time, but we will bring this discussion to a close here. Thank you all very much.",
        "translator_credit": "KRP",
        "article_summary": "This eight-page memorial roundtable records reminiscences of Itō Seiu shortly after his death on January 28, 1961. Participants who knew him across several decades recall his early theatrical and illustration work, his relationships with publishers and performers, his brushes with police and censorship, his fascination with Japanese hairstyles and disheveled hair, and his use of models in staged scenes of kinbaku and seme. The discussion is historically significant because it presents Seiu not primarily through later legend but through first-person memories from associates who had known him since the Taishō and early Shōwa periods. Particularly valuable are accounts of his stage-design career, his collection of visual source material, the origins of some of his torment imagery, his preference for Japanese coiffure, anecdotes about models and rope, and the participants' insistence that his eccentric public reputation obscured a fundamentally sincere and warm personality. The article also includes several archival photographs of Seiu and staged scenes associated with his work.",
        "research_notes": null,
        "translation_notes": "The printed title 晴雨画伯を偲んで literally means Remembering or Recalling the Artist Seiu; 画伯 is an honorific for an accomplished painter. 伊藤晴雨 is rendered as Itō Seiu. The participants' name readings are provisionally rendered as Itō Chikusui, Ōhashi Gekkō, Satō Rin'ichirō, Azuma Kiyokoma, Takahashi Tetsu, and Suma Toshiyuki; several should be checked against KRP authority records. 責め is translated contextually as torment, while 縛る and related forms are translated as tie or bind rather than automatically as kinbaku because the speakers are discussing both artistic staging and actual rope restraint. 日本髪 refers to traditional Japanese women's coiffure, a central subject of the conversation. 元結 is the cord used to secure a traditional hairstyle. 細引 is thin cord and 荒縄 is coarse rope. The participants repeatedly connect Seiu's erotic imagery with deliberately disordered Japanese hair, suggesting that hair was at least as important to his visual imagination as rope itself. 浦里 is retained as Urasato because the conversation treats it as a specific historical or theatrical reference familiar to the participants. The anecdote labeled 火あぶり concerns the origin of a dramatized fire-roasting or burning scene associated with Seiu; parts of the biographical chain behind it are conversational and elliptical. The scans contain a few names and phrases that are too soft or compressed to read with confidence; these are explicitly marked rather than silently reconstructed.\n\nUncertain readings:\n- The name of the woman described on PDF page 173 as Seiu's model who became his second wife is not sufficiently clear in the scan for a confident transcription.\n- A title or phrase in Itō Chikusui's discussion on PDF page 175 immediately before the account of police action is unclear.\n- A short portion of Ōhashi Gekkō's response immediately after the model anecdote on PDF page 176 is difficult to read.\n- The name or subject that Azuma says Seiu drew repeatedly on a balloon on PDF page 177 is unclear.\n- The exact reading of 大橋月皎 is provisionally Ōhashi Gekkō.\n- The exact reading of 東喜代駒 is provisionally Azuma Kiyokoma.\n- The exact reading of 須磨利之 is provisionally Suma Toshiyuki.\n- The term or establishment name in the moderator's anecdote immediately before the fire-roasting discussion on PDF page 179 is not fully clear.\n\nMissing or illegible text:\n- PDF page 175: a short phrase identifying an earlier publication or scroll-like work in Itō Chikusui's censorship anecdote is unreadable with confidence.\n- PDF page 176: a brief sentence following Ōhashi Gekkō's comment that Seiu had said similar things in earlier years is indistinct.\n- PDF page 177: one proper name or descriptive phrase in the electric-fan and balloon anecdote is illegible.\n- PDF page 179: a few characters identifying the drinking establishment in the moderator's anecdote are indistinct.",
        "research_status": "published",
        "translation_status": "approved",
        "translation_updated_at": "2026-08-08T14:59:55+00:00",
        "translation_reviewed_at": "2026-08-08T14:59:55+00:00",
        "translation_reviewed_by": "Zetsu",
        "translation_approved_at": "2026-08-08T14:59:55+00:00",
        "translation_approved_by": "Zetsu",
        "created_at": "2026-08-08T12:52:40+00:00",
        "updated_at": "2026-09-04T12:18:16+00:00"
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